“I Guess She Didn’t Watch The Office”: Zoë Kravitz Explains Why Friends Belong In The Past
Friendswhich ran for a decade between 1994 and 2004 and boasted 52 million viewers for its finale, is not loved by Zoe Kravitzand as far as she is concerned, it can stay in the 90s.
The sitcom, as noted by the Emmys website, is âjust as popular now as it was during its heyday, when it averaged 25 million viewers each week.â
- Zoe Kravitz and Austin Butler chatted with People about their new film Caught Stealing and revisiting â90s nostalgia.
- Kravitz praised the fashion and cultureâbut slammed Friends for âsuper homophobic jokes.â
- Butler seemed surprised: âWow, even in Friends?â
But even so, the sitcomâs own creator, Marta Kauffman, also has a cringe moment every time she watches an episode.
Zoe Kravitz discussed how she enjoyed being around things from the â90s
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Kravitz and Caught Stealing co-star, Austin Butler, were discussing their new movie with People when Kravitz talked about how much fun she had revisiting the â90s on set and toying with answering machines and VHS video machines.
âEven just being in the apartment [on set] and seeing the Nintendo 64 on top of the TV. We had the GoldenEye , I saw that,â Butler chimed in, who also appreciated ânot having a cellphone on him all the time.â
âOr my cell phone was that Nokia brick thing,â remarked Kravitz, to which Butler replied, âYou had a big old thing, yeah.â
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Kravitz said it was âreally nostalgic for that time,â and called out the eraâs fashion, describing it as âso cool.â
âNew York City and the grunge. ⊠Itâs a good time.â
Co-star Austin Butler was surprised by Kravitzâs stance
The conversation then took a turn to what they were happy to leave behind, and the first thing Kravitz called out was: âSuper homophobic jokes on mainstream television.â
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Tellingly, she named the sitcom Friends to make her point. âIf you watch Friends now, youâre like, âWhoa, thatâsâŠ.ââ
This answer surprised even Butler, who shot back: âWow, even in Friends?â
Kravitz was not deterred and said, âOh, so much in Friends. Like, things that arenât punchlines are punchlines. Itâs wild. So maybe that? We can keep that there.â
Butler, either because he had never seen it that way or had never watched the sitcom, found the idea âcrazy,â but he conceded, âYeah, keep that in the â90s!â
The showâs co-creator expressed similar sentiments in 2019
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Kravitz is not the only one who sees things this way. Ironically, the showâs co-creator, Marta Kauffman, vented similar sentiments in a 2019 interview with USA Today.
Speaking to Michelle R. Martinelli, she said, âEvery time I watch an episode, thereâs something I wish I could have changed.â
Echoing Kravitzâs observations, she pointed to Season 8âs The One with the Rumor with Brad Pitt.
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âI might have not done the hermaphrodite stuff today if I had that to do over in the one with Brad Pitt.â
Marta Kauffman says they were ignorant when they made the show
Kauffman further noted that many of these perceived blunders were based on ignorance back then.
âI think we didnât have the knowledge about transgender people back then, so Iâm not sure if we used the appropriate terms,â she told her interviewer.
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âI donât know if I would have known those terms back then. I think thatâs the biggest one.â
But not everyone who participated in the high-grossing sitcom, which aired on Netflix and now HBO, sees the showâs humor as inappropriate.
The actor who played Ross in the series disagreed
A year after Kauffmanâs admission, David Schwimmer, who played Ross in the series, chatted to The Guardian about his tenure on the show.
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Sitting in a New York restaurant, his interviewer picked his brain on several issues, including an article by The Independent thatspotlighted shocked millennials when they watched Friends for the first time.
The writer reported the then middle-aged actor getting defensive. âI donât care,â he told his interviewer, David Smith.
âI feel that a lot of the problem today in so many areas is that so little is taken in context.â
Despite Gen Yâs trepidations, the showâs ratings are almost as good as they were between 2004 and 2014
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âYou have to look at it from the point of view of what the show was trying to do at the time. Iâm the first person to say that maybe something was inappropriate or insensitive, but I feel like my barometer was pretty good at that time,â Schwimmer claimed.
âI was already really attuned to social issues and issues of equality.â
A report by The Wrap suggested that Gen Yâs distaste is failing to make inroads into the sitcomâs ongoing success. Around the same time, Friends enjoyed the status of the most-watched show on HBO Max.
Two decades after it ended, Friends remained the fifth most-watched series in America
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A piece published by the Emmys website on Friends 20th anniversary noted: âTo say the show was a âbig dealâ is an understatement.â
âAs was the somewhat daunting task of landing the series finale, which aired 20 years ago today on May 6, 2004,â the platform reported in May 2024.
âIt was watched by 52.5 million people, making it the fifth most-watched series finale in U.S. history.â
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